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RE: Why ActiveMatrix?

MrYay — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:03:00 GMT

Well actually,

I figured it out that ActiveMatrix is:

- A new brand name for BusinessWorks and Co for all poeple that have and still use BusinessWorks. This won't change their world except that Designer is tend to be better once it will run on eclipse.

- Something that will initiate your SOA infrastucture basis --> for all that are used to deal with J2EE/.Net type of enterprise backbone. Thanks to the nice Service Container + JMS + Web services registry combo, you have everything you need set up your SOA.

The only thing that cannot be easily taught is methodology, which implies guidance.

Voila.

RE: The eternal argument - BPM vs SOA

ChrisL — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:17:02 GMT

I go along with a lot of Mala's original post.

BPM & SOA are entirely compatible, or at least they should be. If the S in SOA is an IT service, then services are pieces of componentised functionality which a business process needs in order to achieve its objective.

A conceptual problem can arise however if the S refers to 'business service'. 'Business process' and 'business service' can then compete for the privilege of describing the business at a logical level.

Personally I find 'business service' a confusing concept. It either seems to boil down to 'business process' anyway, or it is something less definitive but which organisational areas like to think of themselves as providing. 'Business process' seems to me to be a far more robust concept architecturally. Hence my opening remark.

I expand on this relationship in a paper entitled 'Business Process Architecture and Business Transformation' published in the WfMC's '2008 BPM & Workflow Handbook' & also available from www.makeworkmakesense.com.

RE: Why ActiveMatrix?

mandeep.kohli@wipro.com — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:34:55 GMT

Nice post. Tibco is pushing Active Matrix suite as a future, but i am seeing just adding word ActiveMatrix with almost all of the products as it is like Adapters, BW etc. I want to know about the seggeragation of these vaious AM products like AM Service Bus, Grid, thier purpose and fitment for implemenation at various levels.

Thanks

RE: Welcome to TIBCOmmunity and the TUCON Blog

sfingerh@tibco.com — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:51:38 GMT

We will have news out on TUCON in the next couple weeks. For now, people can see highlights of last year's TUCON on the TUCON site (http://tucon.tibco.com/) and access all of last year's presentations by selecting the tucon_presentations TAG in the Popular Tags section to the lower right.

RE: Welcome to TIBCOmmunity and the TUCON Blog

JGrote — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:25:56 GMT

Hi,

Tucon 2008 is now history and a Time ago ...

... are there any news for Tucon 2009 from the Tucon Bloggers ?

Please keep the Blog Idea alive, it's really usefull and interessing!

thanks and best regards, Joerg

Posted: 5.11.2008

RE: How to do row highlight of Table row on mouse over

dhwang — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:20:45 GMT

Yes, you will have to overload the onmouseover event handler, which currently only triggers the spy handler.

Use the attribute editor palette and add your custom onmouseover property with your syntax hilighting code there.

Note that since context for "this" pointer is now the element you have to change the code accordingly. (i.e. you cannot use this.getId(), but "event.target.id" and you cannot use "this.lastid" you need to create a global LASTID variable etc..).

RE: How to do row highlight of Table row on mouse over

ben@killersite.com — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:15:25 GMT

The Spyglass method for row highlight has a very annoying delay. Is there any other way to get instant onmouseover row highlighting?

RE: The eternal argument - BPM vs SOA

mark.bloomfield@sciamus.co.uk — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:44:37 GMT

I don't believe you should compare the ARIS toolset with Business Studio. In my mind the two products serve different purposes and goals. For example on a small BPM project ARIS would be overkill but in large corporate change management projects you would use ARIS to handle the high level detatil but at the end of the day you still would still need to use a tool like Business Studio to provide the execution model. This is probably why TIBCO included an ARIS import tool as part of the product.

Also I believe it is a good idea that the products are sold seperately. For example you mention the BAM product, well it may be that a customer doesn't require BAM as part of the project or Analytics as they already have analytics in the orgranization. Why pay for product components you wouldn't use? Also it makes the architecture more flexible to swap out components. For example you can use the iProcess BAM feed (IAPJMS) to send messages to CEP engines or onto your ESB and then deal with those BAM events as your project requires them. For example use BW to feed into your existing MIS infrastructure.

In my mind iProcess has been evolving with the correct strategy since the days of Staffware and is already a serious competitor with the other leading vendors in the BPM market.

RE: The eternal argument - BPM vs SOA

sid_sanyal@yahoo.com.au — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:12:18 GMT

All my comments here are based on my experience as a TIBCO customer architecting and implementing BPM solutions.

It was only after the release of ActiveMatrix that I acknowledged TIBCO as a SOA vendor. Prior to that TIBCO was primarily an EAI vendor, no matter how hard people to try to convey the message of BusinessWorks as an ESB.

It is only now that BW has been rechristened as ActiveMatrix BW and engineered to work as a Service Engine within ActiveMatrix framework, can I say that TIBCO is also a SOA vendor.

Regarding BPM, the process execution side of things has been taken care of.

However, the Process Modelling, BAM, Round-trip visbility/engineering/control, Case Management and Process Collaboration capabilities are seriously out of the top league in terms of simplicity and functionality.

It would be foolish to believe that Business Studio can be used by business users for process modelling. It will always be a technical tool compared to other options such as Lombardi and ARIS.

The entire product set is highly complex and cobbles products that are sold independently.

For example, the iProcess Insight product is based on BusinessFactor, which is an entirely different product set sold independently.

I have a long list of shortcomings in the TIBCO BPM suite that I would like to keep to myself while we wait and see TIBCO's evolution from an infrastructure vendor to a business vendor (when they claim to be leaders in the BPM space).

I believe that TIBCO is the #1 vendor when it comes to EAI, SOA (partially) and CEP. However in the BPM world, TIBCO needs to do a lot more to impress.

RE: The eternal argument - BPM vs SOA

anandlonkar — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:11:30 GMT

You are correct in pointing out that there needs to ba a big picture in designing the services. While both these ways have their pros and cons, there is a fundamental difference in both these ways.

You can have atomic services built on the data and run into a risk of getting too many levels of services before a business process can pick up from there.

Other way round, you build thick services and run a disk of putting too much logic into the service and making in non reusable, rendering SOA useless.